Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald

Panda politics: What does China really want from Australia?

The high-profile visit by Chinese Premier Li Qiang signals warming relations between Canberra and Beijing, but could it be indicative of deeper economic and political anxieties in China? What is it, really, that China wants from us? Guest: Richard McGregor - former Beijing bureau chief for the Financial Times, author of Xi Jinping: The Backlash and Senior Fellow for East Asia at the Lowy Institute.Recommendations:Geraldine - reading: We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history article by Patrick WintourHamish - reading: The Hollow Crown: Shakespeare on How Leaders Rise, Rule, and Fall book by Eliot CohenYou can also listen to Hamish's interview with Eliot Cohen and Fintan O'Toole on the Big Weekend of Books on the ABC Listen App Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

31 min

What do India, Mexico and South Africa have in common?

In India, Mexico and South Africa, frustrations and hopes have been borne out at polling booths, with extraordinary results. Geraldine and Hamish take an in depth look at South Africa, which is about to enter an exciting new phase both at home and abroad.Guests:Lynsey Chutel - reporter for The New York Times based in Johannesburg. Melanie Verwoerd - former Member of Parliament for the ANC, the former Ambassador to Ireland, and the former Director of UNICEF- Ireland. Recommendations:Geraldine - watching: A Life in Ten Pictures Season 2 - Nelson Mandela on ABC iViewReading: Winnie and Nelson: Portrait of a Marriage book by Jonny SteinbergHamish - watching: Ladysmith Black Mambazo - Nkosi Sikelela (Live At Montreux 1989) on YoutubeGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

31 min

Sunak vs Starmer: Who will rule Britannia?

One week into the UK election campaign and to say things have been unexpected is an understatement. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has come out firing, announcing a controversial national service scheme that caused Gen Z to have a meltdown. But is it enough to close the gap between the Tories and Labour, led by Sir Keir Starmer? Guest: Krishnan Guru-Murthy - one of the main anchors of Channel 4 News. He also fronts the podcast Ways to Change the World and reports for the foreign affairs series Unreported World.Recommendations:Hamish - reading: The Forever War: America’s Unending Conflict with Itself book by Nick BryantGeraldine - reading: In death as in life, Yael Dayan is an inconvenient Israeli by Noah EfronGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

38 min

🚨🚨🚨 Trump is guilty — can he still win!?

Well, it's happened. Donald Trump is a convicted felon. In this bonus episode, former Republican speechwriter David Frum reacts to the historic verdict and discusses whether Trump has any hope now of being re-elected.Guest: David Frum - staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of 10 books, most recently Trumpocracy (2018) and Trumpocalypse (2020). In 2001 and 2002, David was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush. You can read his latest on the Trump verdict here.

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Who's afraid of the ICC?

The International Criminal Court is considering whether to issue an arrest warrant against Benjamin Netanyahu - the first time in history such a move has been made against a pro-Western leader. It's sparked a mixed reaction, internationally, but it's unclear whether Israeli or Hamas leaders will ever be held accountable for potential war crimes. It's also unclear what impact, if any, this development will have on the ongoing conflict and humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Guest: Julian Borger - World Affairs Editor at The Guardian; author of The Butcher's Trail and I Seek A Kind Person.Recommendations:Geraldine: Reading - Friendly Fire: How Israel Became Its Own Worst Enemy and the Hope for Its Future book by Ami AyalonHamish: Reading - Netanyahu and Khamenei find themselves in a tightening vice article in the Financial Times by Kim Ghattas Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

29 min

Let's make babies: The coming population crisis

Treasurer Jim Chalmers touched a nerve when he suggested Australians should start having more kids, but does he actually have a point? Fertility rates are falling dramatically across the world and it's stoking all sorts of fears. Guest: Dr Jennifer Sciubba - one of the foremost experts in the field of political demography & the author of 8 Billion and Counting: How Sex, Death, and Migration Shape Our WorldRecommendations:Geraldine: Reading - You can’t even pay people to have more kids by Anna North, Vox.Hamish: Reading - China's high stakes struggle to avoid demographics disaster by The Economist. Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

34 min

Is Europe too weak and too woke?

Some Europeans certainly think so, with polls predicting a swing to the hard-right in upcoming EU elections. So, what would a more conservative Europe mean for us? Geraldine and Hamish travelled to Canberra to ask the EU Ambassador to Australia in person, and to find out whether a free trade deal between the EU and Australia really is dead. Guest: His Excellency Mr. Gabriele Visentin, the EU Ambassador to Australia. Recommendations:Hamish: Watching - The 2022 Schuman Lecture: Strengthening Relationships in Challenging TimesGeraldine: Watching - Freud's Last Session (2023 drama film)Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

34 min

How dangerous is Narendra Modi?

Australia is buddying up to India and Modi as a counter-weight to China, but what kind of country - and leader - are we really befriending?Guests:Avani Dias - ABC's South Asia Bureau Chief.Ravi Agrawal - editor in chief of Foreign Policy and host of the podcast and video channel FP Live.Recommendations:Hamish: Listening - Looking For Modi ABC News podcastGeraldine: Listening - India is transforming. But into what? episode of the Ezra Klein podcast.Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

33 min

Australia's war on Elon Musk

Not only has the war of words between Prime Minister Albanese and Elon Musk grabbed global headlines, its prompted debates about whether the unelected leaders of multinational tech companies have more power than democratically elected leaders. Tech governance expert Dr Alexis Wichowski says other world leaders will be watching how this plays out, closely.Guest: Dr Alexis Wichowski – Professor at Columbia University and author of The Information Trade: How Tech Companies Act Like CountriesRecommendations:Geraldine - reading/watching: Salman Rushdie’s memoir is horrific, upsetting – and a masterpiece by Erica Wagner / Salman Rushdie interview ABC 7:30Hamish - reading/listening: What I Saw Working at The National Enquirer During Donald Trump’s Rise by Lachlan Cartwright in the New York Times and on 'The Daily' podcast. Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

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Anthony Scaramucci on Trump 2.0

As the first ever criminal trial of a former US president gets underway in New York, we speak to ‘The Mooch’ - Anthony Scaramucci – who famously served as White House Communications Director in the Trump Administration for 11 days. He now warns that Donald Trump is a ‘lunatic’ and that a second Trump term would be disastrous for America, and the world. Guest: Anthony Scaramucci - American financier who served as the White House Director of Communications from July 21 to July 31, 2017. He has a new book coming out: “From Wall Street to the White House and Back: The Scaramucci Guide to Unbreakable Resilience”. Recommendations:Geraldine - reading: Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs Tim Watts' response to The Economist calling the flat white "Australia's greatest culinary export" Hamish - watching: The Rise and Fall of Boris Johnson on ABC iviewGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

36 min

A Palestinian State. Now?

Foreign Minister Penny Wong has hinted that Australia might recognise Palestinian statehood. It's a significant move, politically, but will it have any impact on what's happening on the ground in Gaza?Hamish and Geraldine sit down with Tirana Hassan, the Australian who has just become head of Human Rights Watch, to discuss this, and whether we'll ever see Nuremberg-style justice for the war crimes being perpetrated around the world today.Guest: Tirana Hassan - Executive Director, Human Rights WatchNote: The Israeli Embassy has been contacted for comment.Recommendations:Geraldine - watching: The Cold War of Spies, docuseries on SBS on DemandHamish - reading: Tonnes of food is stuck on Gaza’s border while the enclave nears famine FT Visual StoryGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

45 min

Is 2024 the new 1939?

It's worrying when one of Europe's most influential leaders says that the world is in a 'pre-war state', similar to 1939. But just how worried should we be, here in Australia? Ian Bremmer gives us his frank assessment of where things stand and reveals why Australia might just be a geopolitical haven. Guest: Ian Bremmer - president of political risk consultancy Eurasia Group and author of 11 books on global affairs. Recommendations:Geraldine - watching: The American Führer documentary on SBS on DemandHamish - listening: Dark Shining Moment podcast by Ranieri & CoGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

35 min

Could the real Middle East leaders please stand up?

In the absence of decisive US leadership, it could fall to Middle Eastern leaders to push for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and create sustainable pathways to peace. A stable, post-American regional order is in the interests of most Middle Eastern powers, but does anyone have the political will to take the lead?Guest: Dr Sanam Vakil - director of the Middle East and North Africa programme, Chatham House.Recommendations:Geraldine - Reading: 10 books to help you understand Israel and Palestine, recommended by experts (The Conversation)Hamish - Reading: Royal Bodies, essay by Hilary Mantel (London Review of Books)Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

28 min

What's really going on inside Beijing's Black Box?

When it comes to Chinese politics, reading the tea leaves is never easy. In this episode Hamish and Geraldine are joined by Rana Mitter, the man dubbed the 'rockstar' of China studies by former PM Kevin Rudd, to break open the black box of the Politburo and reveal just how stable (or unstable) Xi Jinping's leadership is, given the economic and demographic headwinds that China is facing.Guest: Rana Mitter - ST Lee Chair in US-Asia Relations at the Harvard Kennedy School.Recommendations:Rana - Listening: Face-Off: US vs China podcast, dropping on April 9.Hamish - Reading: Restless Empire: China and the World Since 1750 by Odd Arne WestadGeraldine - Watching: Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War docuseries on NetflixGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

37 min

The Really Big One: Controlling AI

A new global arms race is on, to develop and control AI. But with so much power and profit tied up in this transformative new technology, is it in anyone's interest to ask where this new age of empire might lead? AI expert Anu Bradford says if we don't put proper guardrails in place soon, the consequences could be dire. Guest: Anu Bradford - Professor at Columbia Law School and author of Digital Empires: The Global Battle to Regulate Technology.Recommendations:Hamish: The Age of AI Has Begun by Bill Gatesand 'Way too much news': US conservatives face a fragmented media map - Financial TimesGeraldine: Israel Must Decide Where It’s Going—and Who Should Lead It There - Ehud Barak in Foreign AffairsGet in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au

33 min

BONUS EP: Timor's PM Xanana Gusmão

As a resistance fighter turned statesman, Prime Minister Xanana Gusmão has devoted his life to the struggle for Timorese independence. On the sidelines of the ASEAN-Australia summit, he opened up to Geraldine and Hamish about why he is such a staunch advocate for processing the gas from the Greater Sunrise project onshore in Timor-Leste and what his dreams are for his country.

25 min

SPECIAL EP: Malaysian PM Anwar Ibrahim

Sitting down with Geraldine and Hamish on the sidelines of the ASEAN-Australia Special Summit, Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim revealed his desire for Australia to adopt a more 'mature' approach on China, his frustration at Western 'hypocrisy' concerning Gaza, achieving 'spiritual enlightenment' through Shakespeare and why being Prime Minister is no 'bed of roses'. Recommendations:Past episodes of Global Roaming

31 min

Is Putin winning?

As the war in Ukraine grinds into its third year, it's increasingly becoming a battle for hearts and minds. Angela Stent has met Putin - 16 times - and she says it's this war for global influence that Putin thinks he is winning. Recommendations:Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski speaking at the UN Security Council - listen hereBBC The Briefing Room podcast - How is technology changing warfare?Masha Gessen in the New Yorker - The Death of Alexei Navalny, Putin's Most Formidable Opponent Correction: Hamish incorrectly referred to Masha Gessen using she/her pronouns. Masha Gessen is nonbinary and trans and uses they/them pronouns.

29 min

Can Australia defend itself?

Big decisions are being made about the future of Australian defence, with very little public debate. Highly esteemed defence strategist Hugh White is trying to inspire this national conversation. He joins Geraldine and Hamish to discuss why he thinks AUKUS is a mistake and what he thinks Australia needs to do instead, if we really want to secure ourselves in a rapidly contested region.Recommendations:Geraldine: Navalny - documentary. Available on SBS On Demand until 20 April 2024Hamish: Essay by Hervé Lemahieu in Australian Foreign Affairs journal (AFA20 - February 2024), proposing that Australia pursue a common travel area and an integrated digital market with the Pacific.

29 min

Is chaos the new world order?

Financial Times journalist Gideon Rachman says the world order is fundamentally shifting, and not in a good way.Recommendations: Hamish: In the Time of Madness – Richard Lloyd Parry (Book) Geraldine: Lunch with Prabowo, by Ben Bland at the Financial Times Nemesis, Series 1 Episode 3 The Morrison Years, ABC

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Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald

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Panda politics: What does China really want from Australia?

What do India, Mexico and South Africa have in common?