
Bill’s guests are John Kasich, Gabriel Sherman, George Packer, Maya Wiley, and Philip Mudd. (Originally aired 5/5/17) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bill’s guests are John Kasich, Gabriel Sherman, George Packer, Maya Wiley, and Philip Mudd. (Originally aired 5/5/17) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices